RON BOMBLISS IS THE OWNER OF "KESANG CAMP'S" SILKBOW OF HO IN NOT JUST ONE REGISTRY. He has the documentation. CONTACT RON BOMBLISS AT www,kesangcamp.com
INFORMATION ON PUPPY MILLS
Contacting the Tibetan Mastiff Rescue might be a good idea when researching breeders. They may be able to supply you with valuable information regarding lines and health issues that come into rescue.
HOW TO PICK A BREEDER AND WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN STRUCTURE (I am no expert but this is what I have learned so far from my mistakes and getting dogs with poor structure from breeders who prey on newcomers :)
AVAILABLE for Adoption to good home. Candidates will be screened carefully
Many times, people will exagerate the size of theirs dogs just to make a sale I guess. I have yet to see a 150 lb. Tibetan Mastiff . When researching dogs, the tibetanmastiffinfo site has a wealth of information. Example: It will tell you many things regarding specific dogs under the "other" and "notes" section. This website is a valuable tool to use. Feel free to contact me and I will share my personal experieinces with several breeders I have had the misfortune of dealing with. Some people will lie, cheat, and steal from people who act in good faith and better to be warned than to be taken for a ride. Some people will act ethical, yet breed dogs or bitches they were told not to because of health issues; the not tell the owner of the sire in order to gain use of them. The hypocrisy is endless. They breach their contracts, try to falsify records, and go out of their way to figure out ways of cheating others rather than being honest and upfront. It is always good to gather as much information as you can. Some people are just slimy and they will go back and forth; tell their lies, just to get ahead. One day they are taling about somebody; and the next they are their best friend. Too much knowledge is way better than not enough. An educated buyer is a "happy buyer". I can also refer you to others for their experiences and input regarding these breeders. It's like high school all over. Birds of a feather flock together when they want something; dishonestly, and then it is back to enemy mode.
Tibetan Mastiffs used to be a rare breed but with so many high producing AKC show breeders and newcomers; the market has become saturated. Look through the pedigrees and you will find that they are all very similiar.
Beware of what I like to refer as "AKC Endosed Puppy Mills/Show Breeders." IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO KNOW THAT SOMEBODY BREEDING MULTIPLE LITTERS AND BREEDS IS NOT DOING IT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE BREED. BREEDING FOR MONEY IS NEVER GOOD FOR tHE DOGS in my opinion.
You can find many puppies all over the internet for a fraction of the price of these AKC show breeders with similiar pedigrees. I prefer smaller kennels who only produce one breed. I find that the small non AKC breeders are far more ethical and honest. Based on my experience with AKC and it's show breeders; I do not believe it to be a registry of integrity nor for the promotion of healthy dogs.
DOG SHOWS TIDBITS:)
I WAS AT A DOG SHOW THE OTHER DAY AS A SPECTATOR AND I FIND IT VERY AMUSING HOW SOME BIG BREEDERS "PUMP THEMSELVES" UP. THEY WILL GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND REPORT "TO THE FOLLOWERS" HOW THEIR DOGS TOOK BEST OF SHOW, OR BEST OF WINNERS, ETC. WHEN IN REALITY THEY WERE THE ONLY DOG OR BITCH ENTERED IN THEIR CATEGORY. THEN THEY WILL BRING A COUPLE OF THEIR OWN DOGS AND GUESS WHAT? THEY WIN AGAINST THEIR OWN DOG. SILLY ISN'T IT? I THINK SO? DO NOT FALL FOR THE CHARADE OF THE AKC SO CALLED "CHAMPIONSHIP" FARCE. THEY ARE REALLY NOT THE BEST DOGS. MOST NORMAL PEOPLE DO NOT PARTICIPATE IN SUCH "FOOLISH, WASTEFUL FOLLY".
I am not an expert nor do I claim to be. I have had to learn from experience because it seems that many of the long time breeders do not want to "mentor" new people; they only want to take advantage of them. When you are on to their game and see the lies; they will trash you immeadiately to cover up for themselves. Like I said; I do not trust most of them here in the U.S. Only a few.
LITTLE BITS OF INFORMATION ABOUT POSSIBLE HEALTH ISSUES AND TESTING
BASIC HEALTH TESTING
ALTHOUGH I THINK SOME PEOPLE GO OVERBOARD WITH TESTING; I RECOMMEND YOU SEE THE OFFICIAL RESULTS FOR THE "BASIC" HEALTH TESTS. IF THEY ONLY DO THE HIPS AND NOT THE ELBOWS I WOULD BE VERY SUSPICIOUS. HEALTHY DOGS CAN PRODUCE PUPS WITH BAD HIPS AND ELBOWS BUT THE CHANCES OF THAT HAPPENING GO FROM APPROX. 12% UP TO 41% ACCORDING TO SOME ARTICLES I HAVE READ. NOT HAVING ELBOWS DONE WITH THE HIPS SENDS A RED FLAG UP TO ME. ELBOW TESTING IS OFTEN NEGLECTED AND IT IS A CAUSE OF LAMENESS. IT NORMALLY SHOWS UP AT THE AGES OF 4 MONTHS. I WOULD HAVE TO WONDER WHY ONE WOULD NOT TEST FOR BOTH THE HIP AND ELBOWS AT THE SAME TIME. THE PRICE DIFFERENCE IS NOT SUBTATNTIAL AND THE COST OF READING BOTH IS THE THE SAME WHETHER YOU SUBMIT JUST HIP OR ELBOWS OR BOTH.
ADDISON'S DISEASE IN CANINES:
Addison's Disease in Dogs: Quote: "Addison's disease occurs much more frequently in dogs than in humans; in fact, it may occur one hundred times more often in the canine population. It mostly affects young to middle-aged FEMALE dogs, as the AVERAGE AGE AT diagnosis being FOUR YEARS old (although it has been found in puppies and dogs up to twelve years old). About seventy percent of dogs that are diagnosed with Addison's disease are female." Unquote SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA
BASED ON THE ARTICLE ABOVE, addison's does not usually show up until a dog reaches four years of age. According to this article; there is no genetic test for addisons disease in canines: http://www.addisondogs.com/faqs/
Quote: "Is Addison's disease genetic or inherited?
Research has shown that Addison's disease is genetic, but the exact method of inheritance is not yet known. It is thought that there may be an environmental trigger. There are ongoing research projects for several breeds, including Standard Poodles, Leonbergers, Great Danes and West Highland White Terriers, with hopes of identifying a genetic marker. However, at this time, THERE IS NO SPECIFIC TEST TO IDENTIFY THE GENE only the test to diagnose whether or not the dog’s adrenal glands are functioning properly. " UNQUOTE
We are located approximately 40 minutes southwest of Denver in the foothills. We are not a full time breeder and our dogs are part of our family. We strive to raise healthy Tibetan Mastiffs. I would like to share my experiences with other breeders such located in Colorado, Wisconsin, and California. It is my hope that my experiences as a "newcomer" may avoid you loss of money, time, and stress. I would be happy to share emails to support my experiences and you can question them yourself :). During puppy season some breeders will "discredit" and spread rumors about other breeders. Since many breeders have the same lines in their pedigree, I recommend buying the puppy with the look you like and being comfortable with your breeders requirements and/or restrictions!
Having a "CHAMPIONSHIP" doesn't mean the dog is better. Their are many reasons for a dog not being CHAMPIONED out. "MAKING THEIR OWN MAJORS" to become a Champion. Most importantly, talk directly to the breeders and don't listen to "hear say".
PLEASE READ! ARE YOU PROTECTED AS A DOG OWNER WITH AKC OR IS YOUR DOG BEING PUT AT RISK TO BE STOLEN AS A RESULT OF AKC'S REGISTRATION PROCESS? I CALLED AKC AND THEIR CUSTOMER REPRESENTATIVE TOLD ME THAT POSSESSION OF A DOG SUPERCEDS LEGAL OWNERSHIP AND DOCUMENTATION. SO YOU BETTER BE KEEPING YOUR DOG UNDER LOCK AND KEY BECAUSE BASED ON THIS CONVERATION WITH THE AKC REP; EVEN IF YOU ARE THE LEGAL OWNER; AKC WILL NOT HONOR YOUR REGISTRATION PAPERS!
What are you subjecting yourself to when you register your dog with AKC? A friend of mine had his dog taken. This is what the AKC's policies are enabling people to do. Based on my experiences, I would suggest that you are putting yourself at risk for harrassment at the hands of the AKC. I have recently heard of cases where the AKC has fraudently registered litters without the consent of the owners and also of the AKC threatening members with unwarrented audits, inspecitons, etc., provoked by other members who support them monetarily. I strongly recommend you DO NOT register your dog with AKC or you too, just may get a letter from the strong arm man of the AKC!. This is no different than the IRS and the tactics used by them to "go after" anybody who disagrees with them. Based on my recent experiences with the AKC; I believe the AKC is using it's power to harass members that are not giving them enough revenues or who disagree with them Email me and I can supply you with the evidence. This is no joke. It is really happening just like we are seeing unfold with the IRS in this country!
IMPORTANT QUESTIONS TO ASK WHEN PURCHASING A PUPPY: Do they have papers to prove they own both the sire and the dam? Is their name on the papers or someone else's? I would be very leary of buying a puppy without proper documentation proving ownership of both the sire of dam or if there is no contract giving permission by the legal owners of both the sire and dam used in a breeding. There are plenty of puppies that can be bought with proper paperwork and dealing with somebody with incomplete documentation only promotes unscrupulous activity in my best judgment. have to wonder now that AKC has shown it is willing to register litters without the true owners signature or permission. If somebody has figured out unscrupulous ways to register litters; would you believe anything else they say regarding health, parentage, etc. of said puppies? Sadly people falsify many things in the "dog world". Things like service dog certification, AKC registration, testing, etc., etc. Especially with people you would not expect; money seems to be the motivator for all kinds of fraud. I have seen people "work the system" in every area of their lives. Lying, cheating and going back on their word in the dog world. One minute they are calling someone a "puppy mill" and the next they are best friends; all for the purpose of getting ahead at all cost. I would rather deal with someone with all the proper documentation and permissions and would never consider doing business with any person purchasing puppies from people like this in order to avoid questions down the road. Better safe than sorry!
Cut and paste the following link for a good article about AKC breeder of merit and puppy mills:
NOT YOUR DOG? NO SIGNATURE OF OWNER? NO PROBLEM - Recently, AKC approved a litter without permission of the owner of the sire. Based on what I have learned about this; anybody can get the AKC number of a dog from a variety of places including show programs and the OFA site. With just this information, a person can take the dog to a vet, collect sperm, inseminate their bitch and resister the litter with the AKC. AKC apparently will not protect the owner of a sire. It does not even require the owner of the sires knowledge or signature to register a litter. It does not even bother to check! The AKC was notified by the owner of the dog that they did not approve and had not signed the forms and is unfairly "targeted and going after" the breeder who was frauded! I believe the AKC is participation in "retribution" based on my direct knowledge of such a case. Personally, I would not feel safe as an owner knowing that somebody could take my dog and do this. I am thinking that this will encourage theft. If I was you I would ask the AKC about this and I personally will be registering any future dogs with UKC! For these reasons I believe it is very important to research the person selling puppies.
FULL BROTHER AND SISTER BREEDINGS? NO PROBLEM. YOU GOT THE MONEY AND YOU CAN BREED IT; AKC WILL REGISTER IT! PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING OF RESPONSE FROM AKC ABOUT REGISTERING A FULL BROTHER SISTER BREEDING:
QUOTE: Inbreeding - The mating of two closely related dogs of the same breed.
Line breeding - The practice of mating a dog to a member of an earlier generation of the dog's bloodline.
Outcrossing: The mating of two dogs of the same breed that are otherwise virtually unrelated.
The relationship between the sire and dam of the litter has no bearing on registration eligibility. Anyone who considers breeding their dog must consider many different factors. Breeding dogs that are closely related can cause certain characteristics, both desirable and undesirable, to be present in the offspring. There is no rule that prohibits inbreeding and line breeding; this is left to the discretion of individual breeders.
To find out more information about responsible breeding, please visit our website at http://www.akc.org/breeders/resp_breeding/steps_5.cfm. UNQUOTE
PLEASE CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW FOR A GREAT ARTICLE!OWNER HANDLER DIVISION? IS IT WORTH THE MONEY? - CUT AND PASTE THE FOLLOWING LINK TO READ: http://www.apps.akc.org/classic/ohs/point_scale.cfm
For all of you wondering; do you get points toward an AKC "champion" status by entering in the owner handler division? Why would anybody throw money away like this? It is very insulting to me as to why AKC would assume their membership to be so dumb. This only validates my opinion that the AKC is only in it for the money. Why would anybody give them money to enter shows which have absolutely no value in terms of "championship" points.
"AKC National Owner-Handled Series
AKC National Owner-Handled Series Point Scale
Note: AKC National Owner-Handled Series points do not contribute to championship points.
At an individual show a dog earns the cumulative number of AKC National Owner-Handled Series points associated with each placement. "
I was at the dog park the other day and somebody commented how the AKC is ruining breeds. After learning about how AKC will basically register anything with or without an owner's signature/permission, with no evidence of testing, and regardless of how inbred a litter is; I can see how this is happening. It should come as no surprise that their membership is declining. I know that as an owner; I do not feel safe registering my dogs with AKC as I can see how it might put my dog at risk of being stolen. I also feel showing is so political and most people realize that the best dog does not win in AKC; rather the most well known handler. I have talked with breeders overseas and was surprised to learn how their kennel clubs are far more concerned with the health of the dogs rather than money coming in from registrations. Many require annual testing of breeding stock and approval to breed from their clubs. At least they have standards and are looking for the welfare of the dogs. It seems to me that buying from breeders overseas might just be the safest and best option to take unless you can find an honest, non show breeder here in the U.S. But as I have seen with that, all too many times, some people are out just to make a quick buck off the dogs and will use any type of scam or dog and register a litter. Judging by what I have learned recently about the AKC; I do not believe they are not at all interested in the welfare of the dogs; but rather the amount of money they can generate from registrations and show entries :(
I have yet to meet an AKC show breeder that is what I consider to be normal. They will talk about people behind their backs. I have seen comments made by these AKC breeders on social media whom I do not even know, never met, say things about me that they have totally made up with nothing to back it up with. All they care about is their image and winning in the AKC show ring. The long time breeders claim they love the breed; and talk about being mentors but all they really want is control. But you don't have to take my word for it. You can go ahead and learn for yourself. The choice is yours.
Once you have the misfortune of meeting an AKC show breeder or judge you will understand what I am talking about. Many of the big breeders that I have met are truly disfunctional and warped. The world of AKC and it's show breeder members is a world "in itself" that you are best staying away from. There typical line of defense is always to "blame their victims". Iam thinking that anybody wanting to do business with some of these breeders should do a "background check" ! That is how bad I think the situation is :)
dogs in order to get somebody else's line. When people deal with others I believe they should disclose all the facts about their dogs so the other breeders can make informed decisions about where their dogs go. Truth and honesty go a long way and when you have to "omit" pertanent facts that would effect somebody else's decision; I believe that is wrong. I can provide you with my recommendations based on my experiences with these breeders. Geez, why do they go through all the hard work of being decptive when all they have to do is "tell the truth" and be upfront. I guess it is not in the make up which is why I would stay as far away from them as I could.
Then you have the people who acuse others of being crazy. These show people will stoop to the lowest of levels. It is very scary that people act this way over dogs.